tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post2476977975094993050..comments2024-03-16T13:56:10.189-04:00Comments on Tubbs Baseball Blog: Carlos Beltrán, 400 Home Runs, 2,500 Hits, and The Hall of FameJohn Tubertyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02319696129461138092noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-27310579773213560392016-06-09T22:56:33.541-04:002016-06-09T22:56:33.541-04:00I love these comments, Joel. Thank you for taking ...I love these comments, Joel. Thank you for taking the time to add your insights as well. John Tubertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02319696129461138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-90913028886135898362016-06-09T11:58:36.763-04:002016-06-09T11:58:36.763-04:00Great piece John. Beltran was a complete player th...Great piece John. Beltran was a complete player that, as you so correctly pointed out, gave teams a consistent contributor allowing them to focus on filling out their rosters elsewhere. Although he had several seasons hampered by injury, when he was healthy he was always one of the best players in the league. If you project the stats he could have put up during those injury plagued Mets years he certainly would have hit the 500/3000 plateau. Through his age 31 season his numbers were astounding. A familiar Barry Bonds argument for Hall induction is that his stats pre-steroids were enough to get him in. Why not extend that to Beltran’s first 11 seasons as an argument for his all-time stature in the game. You do well to point out his defensive acumen and I think if you combine that with the fact that he was responsible for over 3000 runs scored you see how valuable he truly was. Although he may be remembered for how his 2004 playoff run for the Astros ended, we must remember how great he played before that. His OPS was over 1.500 in both series, he hit 8 homers, 14 RBIs and 6 stolen bases. That run was the reason the Mets broke the bank to sign him. Keep up the good work.Joel Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17492625907006101081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-21850002405287727282016-06-08T15:17:23.545-04:002016-06-08T15:17:23.545-04:00ernesto, thank you for taking the time to comment ...ernesto, thank you for taking the time to comment on the article. I certainly hope the BBWAA voters agree with you & Beltràn makes it into the HOF within a few ballots. Beltràn has been putting up some pretty good power numbers this season but based on what he has stated in interviews, he will probably retire following this season or after 2017 so I doubt he'll reach 2900 hits, though he will likely finish with close to 450 home runs. I try to avoid mentioning steroids when possible but as you stated unlike so many of his peers he does not have the PED/steroid-taint complicating his HOF case. However, most of his career has taken place during a hitter-friendly era so some HOF voters will discount his career numbers. ernesto, I'm glad to see you are pro-Beltran for the HOF.John Tubertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02319696129461138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-41878697185310276172016-06-08T14:02:40.909-04:002016-06-08T14:02:40.909-04:006 to 9 ballots.? completely disagree. I read most ...6 to 9 ballots.? completely disagree. I read most of the article and I don't think you mentioned that in the Roids era, Beltran was never one of the guys suspected of doing Roids, while STILL, putting up HOF numbers. He's still going strong and in a couple of years he'll be at Chipper's numbers while doing most of it at Center Field. I think he'll end up somewhere around 2900 hits and between 450-470 HR's which will easily be HOF numbers for a guy never suspected of doing Roids. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12437855045498105087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-71527306388427654432016-05-30T20:37:34.958-04:002016-05-30T20:37:34.958-04:00DSC, thank you for your comments. Always good to h...DSC, thank you for your comments. Always good to hear feedback. I agree Chipper certainly is a slam dunk & should easily get in on the first ballot. I think Vlad & Beltran will be like Billy Williams & Andre Dawson and take about 6 to 9 ballots to make it in. Vlad's .318 career avg will certainly help him. I support Beltran, Vlad, & Chipper for the Hall of Fame. Chipper was a important part of the Braves juggernaut that made the playoffs each year. Vlad & Beltran have both been winning ballplayers too--Vlad like you said was a star of the Angels teams in the mid-2000s & Beltran has been key to helping his teams make the postseason five timesJohn Tubertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02319696129461138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-90816465883305180952016-05-30T14:35:37.792-04:002016-05-30T14:35:37.792-04:00If he's a HoF, which he may be, guys like Chip...If he's a HoF, which he may be, guys like Chipper and Vlad are slam dunks by comparison. Vlad was not just great statistically, not just an award winner, not just a league leader, but he won and won. LAA wins the Division 5 times out of 6 with Vlad. Texas makes it with him, and gets their first-ever pennant. Stats, no matter how 'advanced', are only a part of the story. DSChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05131561121049153046noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-59463527292498858722016-05-29T23:53:07.685-04:002016-05-29T23:53:07.685-04:00Thank you, my friend. I'm glad you enjoyed itThank you, my friend. I'm glad you enjoyed itJohn Tubertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02319696129461138092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6849359023607717471.post-4359557699178865412016-05-29T23:47:24.212-04:002016-05-29T23:47:24.212-04:00Awesome article bro! Loved it! Awesome article bro! Loved it! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13377442101887827199noreply@blogger.com